Hi again :)

No bad takes here, I already mentioned before that I have three beautiful chickens that are well loved, fed and protected and give me eggs on a daily basis. We work pretty well together

Let me guess […] I suppose […] if not you must be

Do you really think that is how logic is supposed to work?

And that’s why it has had no use throughout human history whatsoever. /s

Do you also have an opinion on timber smelling bad and be completely useless with no upsides?

In fairness the suggested premise of you wearing human skin, not an animal skin, was funny but pretty stupid to start with. And not what they had suggested has been done for the while history of humanity.

And we are back at the maybe if you just did this one thing you’d agree with my weird ideas that I think everyone should embrace.

If not visiting a slaughterhouse, it is about watching cowspiracy or some weird youtube videos. Come on

It’s more sustainable to eat the animals you make clothes from.

Except that you are the one with biases here, you are the one who replied to someone who was clearly talking/asking about grammar rules and you did it with a weird twist around (your?) belief structures .

It’s an interesting take but one that maybe you need to explain and not give for granted that everyone knows what is going on in your head. Also you just did then same yourself with non human animals, same as illegal aliens mate.

Actually you were, and everyone replied accordingly.

You seem confused

Make it an abortion kit

And the marketing, the ceo’s bonus, logistics…

Vut it shouldnt even happen. They were in Singapore at the time that, they had to join in remotely. There is a whole department responsible for running the infrastructure and make sure its secure, this is, hardly the end users fault.

We are talking about the person/department that has ensured that they run an especially secure, certified, version of webex losing their job right?

As much as I’d like to think that senior military people have some basic awareness about security, this is really a tool that was considered secure by the organisation. Sounds like a big gaping whole letting dialin enabled for anyone to use.

It sounds like this especially secure, certified, version of webex should probably not allow dial in via phone should it?

I am not familiar with meat cheese, though the idea made me barf a bit.

You have a point with coconut milk bit it’s such a niche product. I’m not living in the eu at them moment but would have no idea where to find it in my local supermarket.

Alternative meats are obviously confusing people if a country feel the need to legislate, and others are discussing the same

You are embarrassing yourself please stop

For starters the word vegan is relatively new and not widely adopted by the general population. Older generations are likely not familiar with it and once again we are trying to put on the customer the onus of disambiguation. On the other hand they are familiar with the word steak, and associate that with an animal cut.

While your suggestion is intriguing, fake meat producers could just come up with a name for their products that doesn’t confuse people so you don’t need to put ‘vegan’ in front of it. Which is what France is doing and other countries will follow soon.

No I’m not going vegan we should both be able to make out food choices and not have to second guess. That’s my whole fucking point about not mislabelling food.

I’m telling a vegan that reading ingredients could be even harder if we don’t regulate and use the right words. The fact that you had it hard doesn’t mean everyone else should.

But, but, but… let me deflect!

Still positive English is not a language of the eu? Really really really?

Maybe instead of screaming you could actually try to explain what is a problem of labeling a vegan product as vegan steak

Confusing and misrepresenting. Steak is meat.

For customer it’s rather clear that it’s vegan Except that in some cases it’s not.

So what exact problem does arrive from having a vegan steak? Again confusing and misrepresenting for customers. The reason why France legislated about this BTW, let’s not pretend it’s hard to grasp

if you planing on producing meat that tastes like banana, I don’t see any problem to lable it as meat banana.

No I am talking about a processed vegan food that is called ‘vegan something’ but that it turns out, has chicken eggs and maybe even meat in the list of ingredients. Just because someone might argue around the meaning of ‘vegan’ the way we are doing for steak, and legislation in some countriesight not protect the meaning of vegan in food names.

Just to be very clear. Nothing against vegans or vegan food. I am for clarity when it comes to customers, particularly in the food industry.

Ah yes you have proven that I can read therefore it is okay to mislabel products across a whole country and potentially mislead other people. Checkmate.

Or how about we protect customers and try not to mislabel products?

What’s with the dog meat? I believe it’s illegal everywhere in Europe isn’t it? Otherwise, just meat so yeah technically a steak.